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Fee for swapping between saved hairstyles is bad

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I know that for most people here 10 merets mean absolutely nothing and I get it that places like Design Shop and Black Market need the fees to keep a somewhat decent economy going, but I think it's kinda absurd that after you purchase a new hairstyle and save it you still have to pay IN MERETS to swap between styles.

It's pretty lame to make it look like you can freely swap between styles given that they charge a lot for a single hairstyle (specially the special/random ones) and then if you wanna change your hair to go with your outfit it's like nope, go buy more merets if you want it back again. The hairstyles you've purchased are not ever really yours, and it's basically the same as charging for equipping a wig, something that you buy once and use it forever in most if not every MMO.

Please consider getting rid of the fee or at least making it in mesos so it's not so absurdly biased towards making you buy merets (yeah yeah I know, "business").
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  • SherriSherri
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    Agreed. it should at least cost mesos, not real cash.
    AbsolutelyNotBoomBipxFragileDreamsxSaberwagon
  • PexcellPexcell
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    edited 4:44PM November 13, 2018
    Agreed
    I also think saved hairstyles should be account wide not locked to a character
    AbsolutelyNotBoomBipxFragileDreamsxM4XXSibyllTheChaosLegendSaberwagonFantasykittenHeartdonorMadokaMagicaand 1 other.
  • BladeSoul69BladeSoul69
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    Pexcell wrote: »
    Agreed
    I also think saved hairstyles should be account wide not locked to a character

    Then what is stopping someone from making a bunch of characters to have all the defaults saved?
    MintyliciousOneConfusedMilletianDanDKTessadryl
  • ItsMyStoryItsMyStory
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    Pexcell wrote: »
    Agreed
    I also think saved hairstyles should be account wide not locked to a character

    Then what is stopping someone from making a bunch of characters to have all the defaults saved?

    Ughh there is basically unlimited free hair change coupons....
    HeartdonorMeso_ManxFragileDreamsxMintylicious
  • xFragileDreamsxxFragileDreamsx
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    Yeah. I don't really want to quit playing my main for the simple fact I paid 30+ for a hair I wanted in the special shop. And now I can't have it on an alt if I were to decide to switch mains. I'd love for that to be account bound. Bad enough theres a fee to switch between saved hair styles.
    HeartdonorSherriOneConfusedMilletianSibyllSaberwagon
  • SherriSherri
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    Yeah. I don't really want to quit playing my main for the simple fact I paid 30+ for a hair I wanted in the special shop. And now I can't have it on an alt if I were to decide to switch mains. I'd love for that to be account bound. Bad enough theres a fee to switch between saved hair styles.

    Yup, which both the fee and the character lock are so stupid.
  • ZintackZintack
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    I support op and comments. I really wanted to go and try for one of the chic hairs but those are expensive af and I feel like I'd regret locking it onto my main and not being able to change it to an alt later. On top of that, I like changing my hair a lot in games and have yet to do in maple because maple cosmetics seem to be crying for my money that I don't have. So pls, no fee or lock. ♥
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    In comparison to mabinogi:
    *Take note, I have no clue if ms2 lets you save old hairstyles even after swapping so this could all be wrong/bad/incorrect comparison AND I came from expensive, dead tarlach so my mabinogi view might be different?

    If I remember correctly from when I played:
    •To save a hair you'd have to buy a hair save coupon for 6$ each?
    •This coupon would store your current hair that you wish to save and then give you a default one?
    •If you purchased new hair and wanted to save it before you switch back to the other hair you saved, you'd have to buy another coupon.
    •You would then use your previous coupon to get your old hair.
    •These coupons would poof after retrieving your hairs.
    •These coupons were also character bound?
    If ms2 doesn't change it to a mesos fee, personally, I would rather pay 10 cents rather than paying 6$ everytime.

    ALSO, Mabinogi put their rare hairs in gachas so byebye money if you had bad luck. I knew friends who spent way more on mabinogi hair compared to how much chic hair cost.
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    For someone like me who liked changing my hair a lot, the reason why I support this and want it to change to in game currency is because even though I only talked about mabinogi being bad with their prices in cash.. you were also able to buy the hair coupons and save coupons from other players with in game currency and I don't think you can buy save vouchers (that don't exist) or chic vouchers from other players on ms2. -^- Which would be a blessing to me since I can't afford these cosmetics with irl money. :,[

    *ps. sorry if this is confusing/makes no sense.. i suck at explaining.
    OneConfusedMilletian
  • DanDKDanDK
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    Don't forget, you can even run out of slots for saving hairstyles! So you also get punished if you buy too many.
  • TamakiSakuraTamakiSakura
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    I think we should pay merets once to unlock a hairstyle account-wide, then pay mesos whenever we want to change it. No need to save styles, just choose an unlocked style and pay mesos.
    SibyllZintack
  • SaberwagonSaberwagon
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    Wow I kinda forgot I had posted this but I'm really glad you guys support this. I really like the idea of making (at least special) hairstyles unlocked account wide, too. Thank you for reading this thread!
    SherriZintack
  • AnOldGeezerAnOldGeezer
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    This game should probably follow along the lines of PSO2
    MadokaMagica
  • MochaLatteMochaLatte
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    edited 2:04PM November 28, 2018
    I just want the hairstyles/faces/skincolors you've purchased to be stored and used on all of your characters. Rolling potentially >$60 to get one RNG-gated hairstyle, only for it to be forever bound to that one character, AND charging you 10 merets every time you want to swap to another hair, is actually insane. And even though there aren't premium random coupons for face, it still costs 1 voucher or $5 to pick a new one, and there's no way to save any of them, so forget the 10 meret fee, for faces it's 500 merets, and the same for skin color, which means you are incredibly limited creatively... You can basically pick only one look, and can only change the clothes and dye colors, and that's it, without spending dozens of dollars swapping faces/skincolor back and forth.

    And the worst part is that maybe this would be justified if the game wasn't pay2win, but it absolutely is... Just because there's limited pay2win options in the cash shop, doesn't mean that you can't pay money to get basically everything in the game with no playtime. You can absolutely do that, it's why there seem to be thousands of bot farmers, and even though it's completely against the ToS, that fact doesn't prevent/stop it. Plus the elixirs, character slots, inventory slots, and premium which are sold officially. And even worse still, because there's no meret/meso market like in other regions, free players cannot earn any of these cosmetics, even though other players are spending thousands of dollars on meso, the lack of the market means it goes directly to botters, instead of being converted into merets for free players to use on style crates or hair swaps or whatever.

    The cosmetics are way more expensive than even Fortnite which is free with zero pay2win, and also more expensive than then zero pay2win Overwatch, which even though it has the $12-25 entry cost, lets you earn almost all the cosmetics for free and even if you paid for boxes its still way cheaper than MS2, a blatantly pay2win game, that also character-locks many cosmetics which amplifies the costs even further.

    I feel like all of the pricing and decisions are being made in a bubble. They price the crates at $3 each, completely forget about that, and then make the style coin shop put things like weapon boxes at 18 coins, which makes it >$32, and then also forgetting that weapon box only drops a weapon usable by one class and no classes share weapon types. Then $4.50 random hair rolls, sure I guess okay, but then they make price the styles at 15 vouchers and you only get one per random hair roll after choosing NOT to receive the thing you got, making the only correct move into not using the voucher system at all outside of duplicate pulls, so then you have these saved hairs you paid like $7-10 each for because of duplicates, and then you can only store 15 at a time, and then you have to pay 10 merets to swap between them, and then when you try an alternate character (which is a mandatory activity if you don't want to fall massively behind on progression, though that is a good thing as it allows free players to compete with pay2winners somewhat) you don't have access to all those things you paid $7-65 for.

    They need to take a step back and run the numbers on all of this. You just cannot have people paying $300 for top-tier combat pets, a couple thousand dollars more for rerolls on all their gear, $5 a month for premium, $30 mounts, $30 weapon skins that only work for one class, character-locked hairs that charge a fee to swap out, $4 inventory expansions for half a dozen tabs per character, $5 faces and skin colors per character that instantly delete themselves if you try any other option, etc etc etc.... It's too much. The only way to win is to not engage at all with any of these systems, and that's REALLY bad for business. Sell real products and genuine services, not random fees on top of fees and character locks that instantly delete all your investment if you change your mind about what class you want to play.
    MadokaMagicaZintack
  • MadokaMagicaMadokaMagica
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    This game should probably follow along the lines of PSO2

    And add a in game casino maybe to earn cosmetic vouchers, mesos, sheet music, etc
    From the time I played PSO2 the casino was fun, and the fact they had a virtual concert in the shopping plaza, :eyes Blake:

    O/T: Let swapping hair be free but if you want to increase the save spots then you gotta pay for more slots. I'm worried because I brought one of the black Friday hairs and don't know if those styles even going to come back. You can't even use it on other characters because it can only be swapped on the character you used it on.
  • InbumInbum
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    You could always make a new character for 10 dollars and when you get banned you can pay another 10 dollars for another character slot so you can fail even more weapon enchants and hairstyles.
  • SherriSherri
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    Seriously though, why charge us more to switch hairstyles? In the original MapleStory, it cost mesos so why make it cost merets in MapleStory 2?
  • InbumInbum
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    Sherri wrote: »
    Seriously though, why charge us more to switch hairstyles? In the original MapleStory, it cost mesos so why make it cost merets in MapleStory 2?

    Cus they're poor and slow. You couldn't even save hairstyles way back when in maplestory 1, it took a lot to get to where the game currently is, that's why we have the forums though, so keep posting, we will get there.