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  • AieAie
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    Bulbasaur wrote: »

    Lmao one can identify a sexual element in a figure without being aroused. "Not enough clothes" doesn't describe the heart of the issue as in some situations it is perfectly normal to reveal skin, e.g. at the beach for example.

    Again, if you are finding a child sexual for exposing anything other than genitalia, you are the problem. Knees, Shoulders, Thighs and Midriffs, have no reason to be sexually charged. If one cannot make the distinct mental separation between the way they view an adult, and a child dressed in adult clothes, there is a major problem.

    Toddlewood-2.jpg
    Oh man the kid is showing shoulders thats inappropriate

    4.jpg.
    That Collar is too low on the kid, oh no what will we do.





    not rlly a part of the topic but those kids are rockin those dresses
    UminoKorasuSyrusMarufuji
  • VeremisiaVeremisia
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    edited 11:01PM October 29, 2018
    I just wanted to add another one to the never-ending list of questionable chibis.

    dllhost_2018-10-30_07-55-49.png

    Not too sure anymore, but I think she can be found in either Cozalita Gaveyard Shelter or, if that map had a shelter, Melta Dam. Memory is hazy, because I only afk'd in the shelters for the exploration goal...
  • Masked_Masked_
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    I don't see anything wrong with this..and what are you people talking about? You're all acting like you never seen anime before, trying to put an age on a chibi character if you feel that uncomfortable just play a game where your npcs are more covered up. Please don't turn this game into league of legends where the fans complain about everything down to the neck line of a character..
    GretaSyrusMarufujiIdeghallia
  • GretaGreta
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    edited 12:38AM October 30, 2018
    Veremisia wrote: »
    I just wanted to add another one to the never-ending list of questionable chibis.

    dllhost_2018-10-30_07-55-49.png

    Not too sure anymore, but I think she can be found in either Cozalita Gaveyard Shelter or, if that map had a shelter, Melta Dam. Memory is hazy, because I only afk'd in the shelters for the exploration goal...

    Everything is fine here. Do you see any naked bob or vegana? No? It's just a pixel chibi and nothing else. It's. Not. REAL. If this outfit gives you some bad ideas then that's on you pervert. I like this outfit and I would love to wear it on my character.
    SyrusMarufuji
  • SaranethSaraneth
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    I love my cute chibis. Wish they were my real waifus.
  • FloeFloe
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    edited 2:27AM October 30, 2018
    Greta wrote: »
    It's. Not. REAL.

    Please stop with this argument, it has zero holdings. Why? Take german law for example that does not distinguish between fact or fiction, real pictures or art/3D renders.
    If this game starts allowing racy child like looking characters then oh boy, all german players CAN be held legally liable for possessing child pr0n.

    Don't believe me? Use google. Since germans make up a huge portion of the playerbase, Nexon sure as heck doesn't want to loose them so they crack down hard. Imho, they need to crack down much harder and have a review process in place before these things enter the UGC and cause potential legal issues.

  • SaranethSaraneth
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    edited 2:49AM October 30, 2018
    Floe wrote: »
    Greta wrote: »
    It's. Not. REAL.

    Please stop with this argument, it has zero holdings. Why? Take german law for example that does not distinguish between fact or fiction, real pictures or art/3D renders.
    If this game starts allowing racy child like looking characters then oh boy, all german players CAN be held legally liable for possessing child pr0n.

    Don't believe me? Use google. Since germans make up a huge portion of the playerbase, Nexon sure as heck doesn't want to loose them so they crack down hard. Imho, they need to crack down much harder and have a review process in place before these things enter the UGC and cause potential legal issues.

    But it's not real. It's a drawing. Hurts no one.

    Also German law isn't Global law.
    GretaSyrusMarufuji
  • HowlyeHowlye
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    edited 3:59AM October 30, 2018
    "Its no real its a draw, hurts noone". I guess draws come out of noones mind either.

    The amount of arguments/excuses i can read in this post its simply... pathetic. "If you find that wrong its on you, not healthy peoples mind like ours" Seriously.

    Cant stop laughing. Either to the ones who move the tissues out of the keyboard to write such things, or the ones who wish they looked like that when trying to cosplay a character.

    But hey. Everythings alright. Seems like there are only 2 kind of people in here. The ones who agree and vaguely/poorly defend it with such healthy/open minded excuses. Or the ones who are against, whose judged by this first ones are the "perverts" and disgusting ones due to find it "wrong". Cause hey, its a draw.

    ¡("xD")!

    BulbasaurFloe
  • SaranethSaraneth
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    edited 4:06AM October 30, 2018
    @Howlye
    Not sure what you're trying to say. Maybe try typing it again and use proper English this time.
    SyrusMarufuji
  • BulbasaurBulbasaur
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    edited 4:30AM October 30, 2018
    Greta wrote: »
    Do you see any naked bob or vegana?

    So if I cover up just the boobs and vag, that will also apparently be ok to you?
    Greta wrote: »
    No? It's just a pixel chibi and nothing else. It's. Not. REAL.

    It's not real but it gives the wrong message to little children (and adults) in MS2.
    Greta wrote: »
    If this outfit gives you some bad ideas then that's on you pervert.

    One doesn't have to derive sexual gratification from it to find it inappropriate lmao.

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  • SaranethSaraneth
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    edited 4:44AM October 30, 2018
    Bulbasaur wrote: »
    It's not real but it gives the wrong message to little children (and adults) in MS2.

    And what is the right message? That you are not allowed to be sexy?
    Should we really be teaching people from a young age that they should be ashamed of their bodies and should cover themselves up? No, that's just stupid.
    Man the world is going to dogs with how sensitive people are these days.
    SyrusMarufuji
  • BulbasaurBulbasaur
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    edited 6:08AM October 30, 2018
    Saraneth wrote: »
    And what is the right message? That you are not allowed to be sexy?

    That sexual elements should not be incorporated into little children or child like cartoons.
    Saraneth wrote: »
    Should we really be teaching people from a young age that they should be ashamed of their bodies and should cover themselves up?

    There's a difference between being ashamed with ones body and "covering up", and wearing costumes that are typically associated with sex and pornography. There's a difference between adults and children.

    No, you shouldn't be ashamed of your body and nobody cares if you flaunt it (as a late teenager or adult). However, we shouldn't depict little children wearing erotic costumes for entertainment.
    HowlyeFloetinyfruitbat
  • EllegonEllegon
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    edited 7:15AM October 30, 2018
    My proposition for next update - delete all female stuff (+ edit all female characters in game) and add 3 outfits like this: OkbHYQv.png
    HeimerdingerSyrusMarufujiVeremisia
  • ZarozianZarozian
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    Ellegon wrote: »
    My proposition for next update - delete all female stuff (+ edit all female characters in game) and add 3 outfits like this: OkbHYQv.png

    10/10 would want this for all female characters. If you want to make males unhappy, wear those and we will be sad face.
    Heimerdinger
  • ZarozianZarozian
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    edited 8:52AM October 30, 2018
    Also I was very serious about having plans to fix American society and culture permanently so I will be making another thread which might be a bit off topic but I promise it will be very interesting.

    @Dochi @Greta @Minju
  • KiymoriKiymori
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    edited 9:55AM October 30, 2018
    Bulbasaur wrote: »
    Beariie wrote: »
    These chibis look like there below 13, this is just wrong on both parts lol.

    Last I checked this isn't real life and I can't put an age on something that has no real world presence in reality.

    Yeah because if I draw a child in a skimpy outfit and a suggestive pose, it's clearly a-ok because it's a cartoon.

    if you find a child sexual for not wearing enough clothes that sounds like a you problem.

    It's comments like this that
    Bulbasaur wrote: »

    Lmao one can identify a sexual element in a figure without being aroused. "Not enough clothes" doesn't describe the heart of the issue as in some situations it is perfectly normal to reveal skin, e.g. at the beach for example.

    Again, if you are finding a child sexual for exposing anything other than genitalia, you are the problem. Knees, Shoulders, Thighs and Midriffs, have no reason to be sexually charged. If one cannot make the distinct mental separation between the way they view an adult, and a child dressed in adult clothes, there is a major problem.

    Toddlewood-2.jpg
    Oh man the kid is showing shoulders thats inappropriate

    4.jpg.
    That Collar is too low on the kid, oh no what will we do.





    See again, the big issues comes back to standards. What is the absolute standard for something being to much or just right? When it comes to what is to 'to sexual' it always comes back to what the majority thinks in a lot of cases. The problem with that is when you don't have an absolute standard for something, really and truly ANYTHING goes until enough complaints about said topic are made.

    When it comes to clothing, there is a reason why 'to much skin showing' was the typical measuring stick because the human body itself in nakedness was seen and has always been seen as where all the 'goods' are and should only be exposed to your partner(This varied heavily based on the country). However as times have changed so have the standards and you can easily see this if you take a quick look through history, so in a lot of ways, what was completely unacceptable for children to wear or be seen in has also changed.

    For example, you see more and more young women pre teen wearing tight yoga pants, a nice top with cleavage(if they have any) showing, or even their belly button showing. I would argue that is a very sexually charged outfit to wear and a child has no business wearing them, however someone would obviously disagree with me and use the same logic as above: ', if you are finding a child sexual for exposing anything other than genitalia, you are the problem. Knees, Shoulders, Thighs and Midriffs, have no reason to be sexually charged. If one cannot make the distinct mental separation between the way they view an adult, and a child dressed in adult clothes, there is a major problem' to borrow the quote. But then it still goes back to the heart of the question, is something being to sexual about how someone perceives something? Or is there actually measuring stick we can use?

    So in the case of Nexon, the matter of 'to much' falls on their shoulders to define and we as designers and players have to abide by those terms. There is really no point in having a debate per say about what we think Nexons sexual standards should be because you're always going to get different answers that will always shift. I think it would be more interesting to talk about perhaps what standards you have and why you feel that way. Personally I think there is a standard in the west, and we are constantly trying to blur 'that line' and push the boundaries for our own personal gain.
    OneConfusedMilletian
  • HeimerdingerHeimerdinger
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    you guys are worried about chibi clothes when there are people advertising to the whole server how they want everyone to touch their pumpkys????? AND THEN THEY JUST RUN AROUND TOUCHING THEM!! can't even leave one in my house, this game has no morals
    OneConfusedMilletianGretaAnOldGeezer
  • HeimerdingerHeimerdinger
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    Zarozian wrote: »
    Also I was very serious about having plans to fix American society and culture permanently so I will be making another thread which might be a bit off topic but I promise it will be very interesting.

    @Dochi @Greta @Minju


    and boy was THAT a tldr
  • HeimerdingerHeimerdinger
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    Greta wrote: »
    Everything is fine here. Do you see any naked bob or vegana?


    i don't think anyone wants to see bob naked

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  • SyrusMarufujiSyrusMarufuji
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    edited 12:10PM October 30, 2018
    Floe wrote: »
    Greta wrote: »
    It's. Not. REAL.

    Please stop with this argument, it has zero holdings. Why? Take german law for example that does not distinguish between fact or fiction, real pictures or art/3D renders.
    If this game starts allowing racy child like looking characters then oh boy, all german players CAN be held legally liable for possessing child pr0n.

    Don't believe me? Use google. Since germans make up a huge portion of the playerbase, Nexon sure as heck doesn't want to loose them so they crack down hard. Imho, they need to crack down much harder and have a review process in place before these things enter the UGC and cause potential legal issues.
    Last I checked, Nexon NA was based in NA, not germany.

    Belgium doesnt allow lootboxes. Does this mean every game has to eliminate lootboxes entirely? Nope. Its just Belgium that gets the version thats gambling free or doesnt get the game at all.

    Because if you wanna use that argument there are many countries that outlaw homosexual love being displayed. However, I dont see anyone in their right mind suggesting that every website and game should conform to their laws. Its the person in that country's own responsibility to avoid what breaks the law.
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